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Author:jc
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Sat, Jan 28th, 2006 06:46:19 PM
Topic: Where's Inspector Clouseau?

Because we don't believe the newly 'discovered' group of embroideries is anything other than contrived fakery, we would never have begun any investigation to prove our suspicion, so strong is our conviction.

However, if we did we surely would have not followed the path pacquin, presumably with the help of his editors at hali, took.

By the way, we spoke with him a couple of days ago and learned the dye testing was done by thin-layer chromatography, a very accurate method and one that is far better than spectro-analysis.

No one could fault that choice, however, one could the very idea to dye test at all. Why? Well, in reality, dye testing, is pointless for identification or provenance the issues anyone need address in trying to “prove” these pieces are anything other than fakes.

But knowing to a greater or lesser degree the constituent elements used in the dyeing processes is basically useless anyway because enough of the dyestuffs and methods are known and readily available today.

Plus no test can determine when something was dyed, or where.

No pacquin and co. wasted their time dye testing, we’d have tackled the only issue that could possibly positively have determined the are they fake or not issue.

Can any of you out there take a stab at what that would be?

We will reveal that here next time.

Author: jc
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Sat, Jan 28th, 2006 06:46:19 PM

The silk ground cloth would be RK's choice of any aspect of the embroideries to examine to determine their origin.

We'd want to analyze the silk and its spin/ply and, of course, how it was woven, i.e. what type of loom, etc.

But doing that, or anything else is nothing more than a waste of time, as they are clearly forgeries regardless of hand spun or not, vegetal dyed or not, etc.

There are so many other projects to tackle and these embroideries are abolutely unimportant in the larger scheme of things.

In the small scale they are important as they demonstrate, once again, rugdom's woefully inadaquate level of scholarship and acceptance of such sub-standard work.

If pacquin's presentation, which is at best 'thinking out loud', was given so much page space in the magazine it says either the editors believed there was a good possibility they are genuine or hali is scrapping the bottom of the barrel for copy.

Either way, RK believes they have done a poor job in vetting the article and since hali is known for re-writing entire articles to make them to their liking, their having not exercised some editoral control is quite telling.

Plus someone like pacquin who supposedly is knowledgeable and proves he knows enough about the real Ottoman embroideries to write an article sure missed the boat or did he just decide to get on at the bottom of the game and, perhaps, get off at the top?

We don't like one thing about these embroideries and contrary to what pacquin said several time in our phone call RK really doesn't need to see them in person or to handle them. We are sure enough they are fogeries to print our opinion publicly from just seeing their photos and reading about their technical and structural analysis.

Author: Sue Zimmerman Sat, Jan 28th, 2006 10:22:35 AM

I have only ever seen this "motif grouping" with the dots within the dots placed facing each other inward-most within the larger dots. The forged version does not have this detail. That's my stab. Sue

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