In the last days a former frequent contributor to steve price's website wrote in there with his take on the internal "soul searching" that is transpiring in clownland:
I started on **** as a rank amateur rug collector in 2001. I must
say that in 4-5 years, I have progressed a little, but not very far in
my knowledge of rugs.
On the positive side, I have learnt a lot from some very willing and
Knowledgeable(sic) folks on ****. For that, I express my sincere thanks
for your time, effort, and extreme patience.
But it's also very easy to read between the lines here. If someone
posts a rug that is 'beneath' some of the true rug academics that frequent
****, there is little or no response from them. It is almost
One thing I have learnt about the rug world in my short time as
collector is that some rug collectors are elitist, and choose to move within
their own small circles, occasionally poking their necks out to make
comments for the uneducated plebs to mull over.
That is one of the main reasons I chose to discontinue my participation
on this website a few months back.
I guess it was my mistake to come back.
**** is suffering a crisis in terms of where it should be
Mr Tomlinson raises several important points:
1.that he has not "progressed very far" in his knowledge of rugs"
RK know very well how hard it really is to learn about rugs and we sympathize with those honest seekers, like Tomlinson, who find it almost impossible to "progress".
However, that said spending time trying to "learn" anything from steve price=clown, or the majority of the other contributors to his website, is no way to progress.
These folks couldn't teach rug 101, let alone anything more advanced.
So trying to squeeze even a drop of "knowledge or expertise" from dry lemons like price, silverman, amstey or howe would truly be, and is, wasted effort.
2. the rug world is elitist
This statement, on the surface, is true but all societies, and rug collectors are a society, are elitist and RK sees no reason why some rug collectors should not be elitist.
However, the qualifications and performance of those elites is far more the question, rather than solely concentrating on the fact of their existence.
Most of the elites in rugdom are nothing more than a self- appointed and anointed elite who have, because of the power of the bank accounts, bought their way into calling themselves, or being seen by others, as the elite.
This is one of the major problems in rugdom -- an establishment, i.e. the elite, is that in name only.
Often these folks are as rug challenged as steve price and company -- a sad commentary to be sure.
Tomlinson's post and the one howe wrote are clear and present statements, from the inside mind you, that all is not well and right. Yet professor price=clown refuses to even countenance these rumblings, let alone take them to heart.
In fact, the only rejoinder to Tomlinson's post price could muster is "welcome back".
What a clown-- here Tomlinson is saying goodbye in no uncertain terms and price is "welcoming him back".
What more proof of price's ignoramus behaviour and ego-driven lust for recognition from rugdom could one possibly require?
We have said it before and will surely be prompted to say it again -- price is a clown of major proportions; his views worthless, his input to the rug world valueless and his real stature negligible, if not actually non-existent.
In all fairness to steve, the clown, he did say a bit more to Tomlinson and here's the rest of price's comments:
The number of academics whose specialty is rugs or rug related topics is very small.
To the best of my recollection, except for two museum curators, none have ever directly participated in **** or any other rug forum.
A third, Peter Andrews, sometimes contributes comments through John Howe.
I mention this only to point out that the more experienced collectors and dealers that have taken part in our discussions, some of whom are very knowledgeable indeed, are not "true rug academics".
Few, if any, of them would be permitted to participate in forums run by and for academic professionals in the field.
Welcome back, by the way.
True to form price as always missed the boat, the pier and even the harbor with this flatulent and pompous retort.
For your information, steve, academics have degrees but not necessarily knowledge.
Just look at yourself, clown, you have degrees but what do you actually know, or have proven or added to your subject, except a teacher’s lesson plan?
You have written a paltry and embarrassingly meager total of four or five "papers" in your entire career and are in reality nothing more than the baby-sitter of a classroom in a backwater of academia.
One doesn't have to have a degree to be an expert, clown, and just because one has a degree, that degree doesn't make the holder an expert.
When even the most simple logic, like this, is proved lost on a meat-head like price, how in God's green earth could he possibly tackle a complex and complicated subject like antique Oriental Rugs?
Clearly he and those of his ilk can't and that is the issue and reason RK is vocal in our insistence price and company remove themselves from public purview.
Dunces like price, silverman, amstey, howe, etc, etc should be placed in the corner, face to the wall wearing their pointed caps until they get it or at least face the fact they don't get it.