RK REPLIES:The originator of this thread, mr jack williams, has proven himself to be a rug-moron of supreme stature.
His opinions are as worthless as those of Virginia Commonwealth University professor, steev price=clown and the rest of price's mule team of chirping rug magpies.
RK is weary of their BS and inability to realize learning about antique rugs is not accomplished by memorizing, or cutting and pasting what has been written by others, who though published, know as little as they.
Nor is it possible to gain knowledge at the knee of someone like price or many of the other rug world so-called and acclaimed experts.
Learning about antique rugs requires time, effort and an unprejudiced mind -- something all these wanna-be rug collectors, and experts, sorely lack.
There are many in rugdom who likewise believe as true the hype, crapola, malarcky, and nonsense published in hali, many books or dispensed at icoc or acor meets.
This is one of the main reasons rugdom is deaf, dumb and blind to any reality.
We have decided to critique a number of articles in the latest issue of hali, number 152, for just that reason.
Frankly RK couldn't give a damn about what anyone thought of the chuval we posted on EBAY. It was done as an experiment and the results have been as we expected.
Perhaps, someday we will discuss our motivations for posting it but the food-fight the Tekke chuval elicited, and the absurd comments like williams's, demonstrate how lost in the sauce most rug collectors are and how unable they are to remove themselves from the prejudice, stupidity, unquestioned commercialism and in-group promotion that rules rug collecting.
RK will not discuss the chuval any more unless we feel the tenor of discussion is miles above that which has already taken place.
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Do the right thing cASSin....give the money back and ADMIT you are either INCOMPETENT or a SCAM ARTIST.
I see your chuval sold. When the buyer gets it and checks it against what you advertised, I wouldn’t be surprised if he demands his money back (assuming you or your shill is not the high-bidder). Why? ... The kpsi advertised by you, 168), and the warp:weft, horizontal:vertical ratio advertised (1:1.2) appear to be so completely wrong that it is reasonable to assume deliberate fraud or incompetence.
From the posted pictures on T-u-r-k-t-e-c-k, it appears to me that the true density kpsi seems to be about 300 kpsi, and the true h:v ratio is about 1:2.5.
The chuval’s overly-ornate border, it’s true weave density, and it’s true h:v ratio indicate it is at best, likely a very late 19th c. early 20th c. Tekke weave,not pre-1850. It may even be a recent fake...but it certainly does not have the near-square ratio and more rounded guls that are usually characteristic of early 19th c. Tekke weavings, as claimed by you in your eBay description of the rug.
Cassin, from comparing the pictures to your description, I conclude that either you cannot figure out the basic structure of a rug, in which case you are a RUG IDIOT and FAKE, or you deliberately posted erroneous data...in which case you are a CHEATER, LIAR, and a FAKE.
Do the right thing cASSin....give the money back and ADMIT you are either INCOMPETENT or a SCAM ARTIST.
Truth